Episode 385- Useful Art explodes what your sense of Art with a capital "A" is and can be, with John Byrne, author of "Useful Art- How Activist Artists Can Change the World"

“what if we actually allowed all of the good things about art to continue developing what would it become and what would we need to rethink in order to let that happen and isn't it a good idea to start thinking about that right now because if we don't neoliberal capture will turn everything into a commodity”

“rolling jubilee just buy wow debt at the going rate which is a fraction of the cost and then strike it off rather than waiting for it to be paid back with interest”