Episode 323 - The Baseball Records Guinness Recognizes, Ignores, And Probably Regrets

Introduction

0:00Hello, everybody. Welcome to another episode of Two Strike Noise, your uncle's mailman's favorite baseball history podcast. My name is Jeff. I am one half of the show. Joining me as always from the Pacific Northwest this week in the Matt Sinatra studio. It is my

0:30co-host Mark A. Johnston. Mark, how are you doing? Hey, good, good. Isn't Matt Sinatra the guy that got thrown out trying to score from third on a single? I don't know. I was going to ask you if you have any Matt Sinatra memories, but that might be, what was it, an infield single or was it like a fly ball that might have been caught? No, it was like a line drive, but he, for whatever reason, he broke back to the bag first. Line drive. Yeah, you

1:00don't want to get doubled up, but he got thrown out at home by the outfield. That sounds like something that would probably happen on my Sunday league games. Not going to lie. To me. Yeah. To you. Yeah. I assume so. I wrote just a quick story, quick tangent here. So I'm on third with less than two outs and the third base coach says to me, go on contact if it's on the ground, unless it's to third base. I'm like, all right, that's going through

1:33my head. Ground ball to the third baseman. What do I do? Go home. Go on contact. They almost got the runner at first after he tagged me. I got there so quick, not listening to any directions from my third base coach, but that's not how we play the game here. We play the game the right way. And to do that, we have got a stretch to make sure we don't hurt

BP Segment

1:59ourselves. So let's go ahead and get into our BP segment. Mark, what better way to start off our BP segment than with a Ricky Henderson story? We never run out. No, we really don't. And this is from a guy. His name is Joel Klatt. I think he does TV or something now. I'm not exactly sure. He only played professional baseball for two years and didn't get above rookie league. He played in 2000 for the Padres in the Arizona league. And then for the Padres in the then

2:36Pioneer League, the Idaho Falls. Shuckers or I forget what they they used to be called the Idaho Falls Braves. They were called the Idaho Falls Padres in 2001, though. That's who he was drafted by. Didn't get very far, as you can see. I mean, further than we have. But still, he was at spring training when Ricky was with the Padres. And he's got a good story here about a time that he was sent to play in spring training in a big league game because somebody got hurt and Ricky happened to

3:08be in the game. So here is a story from Joel Klatt about Ricky Henderson. I was fortunate enough to play minor league baseball. All right. And and I was just a young, you know, bright eyed, bushy tailed guy that didn't know much because I played high school baseball in the state of Colorado that I was drafted and then went right into minor league baseball right out of high school. And so my second year, my second spring training, I was playing third base and the Padres had a third baseman in the organization on the triple A squad named Sean Burroughs. OK, I don't know if anyone

3:41remembers. Yeah. So this is way back. This is you know, this is prior to 9-11. This is prior to security and social media. So like spring training was a free for all in the minor leagues. You could walk wherever you wanted. You can even go and like just watch big league, you know, batting practice on and so forth. And so it wasn't uncommon for a guy at a position to be like, hey, I'm sore today or I need a couple of days off. And they would just be like, hey, go take his spot on this team or that team. So Burroughs gets a sore arm and they're like, hey, we want to shut him down for three

4:14days or so. So, hey, just go hit in Burroughs spot and play third base for the triple A squad during this week for spring training. And I'm like, great. OK, so I just start going with them. And literally the next day and Burroughs hit second back control guy, you know, even though he's a third baseman, wasn't powerful. So he hit in the second spot the next day. The Padres is ink a minor league deal with Ricky Henderson. And I'm like, well, this is this is interesting.

4:45So where does Ricky go? He goes to the triple A squad. Where does Ricky hit lead off? So there I am second behind Ricky Henderson. And I'm in awe. Right. I mean, like you've got to understand my I'm a kid watching those age teams. I'm looking at this guy and I'm like, is this real? Like somebody pinch me. And then everything that everyone's ever said about Ricky starts coming true right before my eyes. He's referring to himself in the third person

5:16right to my face, like looking at me and be like, Ricky, get on. And I'm like, oh, my gosh, this is incredible. You know, so we've been, you know, getting ready for our bat. And he would always, you know, he would hit the donut off of his bat, just like you've seen. And then he would start tapping his toes and like doing that almost like that little shuffle towards the plate. And then he would turn to me and he would look me in the eyes. And here I am, you know, this young guy. And he would just be like two or three and then

5:50keep walking. And I was like, what is he talking about? I have no idea. And I was just like, well, you know, I just want to impress him. So I'm like, man, I'm a power hitter. I just want to hit jacks, like just swing as hard as you can, Joel, like, you know, like hit a home run. So he's got to wait for you at home plate so I can give him a bash brother. Like, that's what I'm thinking in my head. I'm like, oh, it's going to be amazing. I'm going to bash brother with Ricky Henderson at home plate. So I'm going up there and

6:21I am swinging out of my shoes on every pitch. And he keeps telling me this number before every at bat. So finally I go up to the skipper, Jeff Gardner, and I'm like, skip, why in the world does Ricky keep telling me a number? And he looks at me and he puts his arm around me and I'm three days into this, guys. I've taken now, you know, 20 at bats behind Ricky. And he's like, Rook, that's how many pitches he expects you to take so he can steal

6:53second. I had been swinging from the heels on every pitch and I'm just like, you've got to be kidding me. That is just the greatest. And he never said anything to you like, hey, I give you the number and now you're just hacking for the fences. Oh my God. Never. And he never like, and he would do it with the same tone. Not like, hey, this time, like, give me two.

7:26He just kept turning and telling me a number, like the same raspy voice, the same, like just three. And then he would walk. So Ricky, even in spring training, Ricky was working on, you know, getting those leads and trying to steal. I mean, that, that works with our story from last week with the spring training

Spring Training Stolen Base Record

7:49stolen base record being broken this summer. That's right. Yes. Or this, I guess this last spring, not summer, but there you go. That was Joel Klatt about Ricky Henderson. Let's see here. Mark, I, when I was streaming earlier this week, I used Daniel Vogelbach in the Immaculate Grid. Anytime I can use Daniel Vogelbach. I think what we were doing is we were playing the grid, but we were only using names that either sounded French or had played for the Expos. Okay. So the Daniel Vogelbach was included in there. And so I pulled up his page because

8:27I was talking about him being a, he's an assistant hitting coach for the Brewers this year. And I just wanted to see what his career average was because it wasn't great. Obviously he was a power hitter, but I found a nickname for Daniel Vogelbach I had never heard of before. Have you ever heard him called Danny Burgers? No, I would remember that. That is such a great, cause I call him Vogel snacks. Cause he's a, remember that one spring training with the Mets that he came in and he was slim and they released him? Yes. That'll teach him. He lost his power is

9:03what he did. But Danny Burgers is such a great name. I love it. No doubt. I'm only going to refer to him as Danny Burgers for now on. All right, let's see. We have not forgotten. I did ask a question last week about what is the most hits a team can get in an inning without scoring a run. We're going to go over that in a minute, but in case you didn't hear it last week, I want to know exactly what I just asked. How many hits can a team get in one inning without scoring a single run?

Most Hits Without Scoring

9:31I will give you the answer here before batting practice is over, but if you didn't hear it, I'll give you a little bit of time to think about it amongst yourself there while we do this. Mark, we like to make lists here. We've done this before. I thought this would be a fun thing to do. I wanted to come up with, we do this for specific holidays. We did it for Christmas. I think we did it for Thanksgiving, so on and so forth. But I assigned you with, let's come up with lists of players, either names or nicknames that have to do with a calendar, days of the week, months,

10:06holidays, anything like that. So I have come up with about 15-ish names here. I know you've come up with some names here. The example that I gave you was Steve Christmas because we used that one for the Christmas episode where you used Johan Santa, which is still one of my favorites. So let's go down these. Why don't you hit me with one of the ones that you've come up with? Sure. How about Lee May? Yep. To be honest, I have got one, two, three, four, five, six, seven different May.

10:43Yeah, I got Carlos May. Yeah. I think I just got one. I got another. Yeah, that one I don't like. So nevermind. Well, I've got Dave May. I've got Milt May, Ruby May, Lee May, Dustin May, and Willie Mays and Carl Mays, like multiple mazes, you know. But I also have Mr. May. Remember when George Steinbrenner referred to Dave Winfield as Mr. May? As Mr. May, yes. To go along with two other

11:14Yankees, Mr. October, Reggie, and Mr. November, your favorite, Derek Jeter. Yes, very good. That literally is like half of my list, but I got them all out there in one go. Who else do you have? Well, have you heard of Don January? Don January. I have, but his name didn't come up. I specifically put in January. Well, that's because he's a professional golfer, but I wanted to include him on the list anyway. I was like, I thought I was very thorough. Okay. How about a minor league

11:49prospect named July Quayle? No, I have not heard of July Quayle, which is much better than April Quayle when they're still young and not as much meat on the bone. No, I went and I found some historical minor leaguers. Oh, okay. Like tough ones, like September Smith, but I couldn't find anything about a good old September. Well, but I liked the name so much. Well, I mean, I don't want to have children now, so I can call one of them September Smith. Well, we've had a well-known month

12:20on the show. We've had Don August on the show before. That's right. Not to mention, we also have not had August Williams. Yes. Very good. August Williams, if you look him up in baseball reference, somehow they know his height and weight and he was a pitcher. They have just got a drawing of him, like not a picture. It's a drawing. He bats and throws unknown. They do know he was born in New York.

12:51It just says New York, New York. I assume that means New York City. August 10th, 1870. He died in New York, New York, August 90th. He was only 20 years old. Augustine Henry Williams, he pitched in two games for the Brooklyn Gladiators in 1890. Didn't do great. 12 innings pitched, 13 hits, 15 runs, 10 earned. He walked 12 and struck out two. So you can see where maybe he ran into some trouble. He did have a complete game

13:27though. So, well, August more than most pitchers now. Yeah. Unfortunately, there's no game logs for it. So I can't pull up those two games. Well, maybe on retro sheet, but I didn't get that far. But yeah, so there I've got August Williams, I thought was an interesting character. No, that's good. I have one guy I introduced myself to a couple of years ago, Rick Monday. Yep. Nice. Nice. Got that one? Yeah. I've got, I've got, actually, I've got one more month. I've got June Green. He was a pitcher

14:01for the Phillies in 1928 and 29. Nice. I didn't know June Green. Very nice. I didn't know him either, but I found him. How about infielder Sunday Martinez? No, I've got, I've got Billy Sunday, but no Billy Martinez or a Sunday Martinez. Yes. Well, that's good. How about art Sunday? Oh yeah. Very good. He went by the nickname Vandalay. Vandalay. Off season, he worked as an

14:35importer and exporter of latex goods. Oh, that's right. What about, well, his name was Greer, but he went by Skipper sometimes. Greer Skipper Friday. Well, that's good. He pitched in seven games for the Washington Nationals in 1923. Okay. Okay. You have any more days of the week? I have no more days of the week. How about holidays? Well, like Matt Holiday? Oh, that's a good, oh, that'll take.

15:05Yeah. That works 100%. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. Uh, how about Doc Easterly? Uh, Doc Easterly. I got Luke Easter, but I don't have Doc Easterly. That's a good one. Early 1900s catcher. Nice. Well, Luke Easter was obviously a pretty well-known first baseman. Luke Easter played for the Homestead Grays for two years in 47 and 48 and then Cleveland. For six years, he played in the big leagues as a first baseman for

15:37Cleveland. Uh, good RBI guy. He had some decent power. He actually did, you know, he did pretty good in the big leagues, especially compared to his Homestead Grays numbers where he hit for average more than power. Sure. Well, I've got a, I've got a Negro League player, Bill Winters. Bill Winters. Didn't he write, um, it's only sunshine when you're gone or something. What's, what's, it was in the Notting Hill soundtrack. That's Bill Winters, the composer and singer. I think it's different.

16:10I see. Yes. This was a picture in the Negro Leagues. How about another guest that we have had on at one time? Bobby Valentine. Oh, very nice. And Ellis Valentine, Expos outfielder with Andre Dawson and Tim Raines. Ellis Valentine. Yeah. I think, didn't he go in, I think he went and played in Japan. I think Ellis Valentine, isn't he the guy in Japan where he charges the pitcher and the pitcher just takes off running to the outfield and he's just, he's just chasing him? Yes. Is that him?

16:44So no, it's not, not him. No, it is not. And I'm sure people are, are probably yelling at their, at their, in their cars or wherever you're listening to us. Prison, whatever it happens to me.

16:58Uh, who was the third guy in that outfield? Not Tim Wallach. I, you know who I'm talking about. Yeah, I know. I'm drawing a blank though. It was not Ron LaFleur. It must be after that. Oh, it was Warren Cromartie. That's who it was. Warren Cromartie. It was, it was Raines Dawson and Warren Cromartie. I think that was the big outfield for the Expos. Ellis Valentine was a little bit before that, but I think, I think it was Warren Cromartie is the guy. Yeah. He played in Japan

17:32for, wow. He actually played in Japan for seven seasons with the Yamauri Giants. And well, wow. He played really well. Nice. Nice. All right. Uh, you got anybody else? Yeah. I got some like time and date concepts, kind of names like early win. Okay. Very nice. You know, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Yes. Uh, 19th century player that kind of summarizes

18:04this whole thing. Pete calendar. Oh, nice. I did not, uh, I did not find Pete calendar. No.

18:15Yes. Okay. Well, and we had, of course, John Day and Ray Knight. So that was how I'm wrapping it up. Yeah. That's a good one. I've just got one more that I'm pretty proud of. I thought this was my best one. I have got, he was a pitcher for the A's in the eighties and he's the current third base coach for the New York Metropolitans. Dave Leeper, like leap year. Ah, very good. And if you say his name quickly, just like if you say Mike Kingrey quickly, it sounds kind of like Ken Griffey. If you say Leeper quick, kind of sounds like leap year. There you go. I'm going to go with it.

18:49All right. All right. Let's see, Mark, we both really enjoy the DH in both leagues, I think.

Universal DH Discussion

18:58Yes. Were you, I don't remember if you were for or against DH everywhere, universal DH. Well, my first, my first instinct was an opposition. And then remember I did a show on how pitchers hitting has gone from like hitting 220 to like hitting 035 and just dismal. And I did that and I did the research on that and I went, God, you know, I get it. I understand why we want to have a DH. So I kind of, I changed my mind. I have a pliable brain and I was hustled over to the side of the DH in the national league. Although my father, were he alive, would not be

19:33happy with me. I love it. I've always been an American league guy. So I love the DH. I wanted to

Gene Nelson Stolen Base

19:41see though, because I saw something on social media that piqued my interest on this and it had to do with my favorite reliever of all time, Gene Nelson, that on July 3rd, it was the anniversary of the, at that point, what was the last American league pitcher to steal a base. And it was Gene Nelson, a reliever, mind you. Nice. He pinch ran in a 16 inning game and he stole second base. He was pinch

20:14running for, for Dave Parker. So, you know, Parker was not, and this is the end of Parker's one year in 88 with the A's. He was not mobile. Let's put it that way. So Gene Nelson came in with Jose Canseco at the plate and, and Gene Nelson must've missed a sign or it was a busted hit and run because he stole second base or the catcher dropped the ball. I don't know. I've, I didn't look it up. I've got the game. I actually downloaded the game to watch it because I've got another thing I'm thinking about, but then Jose Canseco just hit a two run home run. So it didn't really matter,

20:48but it made me think about when was the last time a pitcher period stole a base all the way back in 2014 was the last time now that a pitcher has stolen a base. And that was Joe Kelly.

21:06The Joe Kelly, the famous make a crying face at, uh, American league pitcher. Let me say making a, making a face at the Astros. Yes. This is when Joe Kelly was with Boston. It was an interleague game against Cincinnati. So he had to play beyond that. Anthony ghost has a bunch of stolen bases. He came up as a pitcher and then was converted to an outfielder. But before that stolen base by Joe Kelly in the American league, you had to go back to 2002 when Kenny Rogers stole a base. Wow. This is,

21:41this list is a very short for American league stolen bases. 2001 Kip Wells had one and Ishmael Valdez. Then you go to 88 for Jean Nelson. And then you have to go back to 1973 when blue moon Odom did for the A's 72 though, there was a run on stolen bases for American league pitchers. Blue blue moon had four. No. Yeah. For all himself. Andy Messersmith had one. Terry Foster had one, the tub of goo,

22:15which David Letterman must have loved that one. Forrester. Sure. Yeah. And one Nolan Ryan stole a base in, in 1972. Do you remember that one? October 4th. It must've been the last day of the season. Funny. I have no recollection of that for some reason. Oh, well you were 18 at that point. So I thought maybe you would have, but you're off a little bit. Yeah. But yeah. Close. There you go. So it's just interesting to see American league stolen base by pitchers is something you won't

22:50see anymore, even in the national league. Well, I guess you could see it still, but let's get back

American League Pitcher Stolen Bases

22:55to our question, Mark. I ask everybody, what is the most number of hits a team can get in an inning without scoring a run? Did you at any time during the last week pontificate on this? I attempted to, but it hurt my brain. All right. Well, I had to stop. If you just take a wild guess, what do you think it is? Six. All right. Let's see how you did. So this is the scenario. I don't know. There could be more scenarios. I was just following a thread and kind of doing some work and seeing if I could come out with anything better. So again, fielder's choice, obviously not a hit.

23:30And we couldn't just say single tried to stretch it into a inside the park home run, got thrown out at home kind of thing. So first batter gets on, he gets a single, but he is thrown out advancing to second or he gets picked off. Doesn't matter. So we've got bases, empty one out. Second batter, exact same thing. Gets a single, gets picked off. So now we got two outs. Nobody on third batter, gets a single, but he's, it's like Terry Forrester, Daniel Vogelbach. Danny Berger's kind of slow, right? He's going to go one base at a time to score from first. Somebody needs to hit a home run.

24:05A triple won't score. All right. So we've got runners on first two outs. Fourth batter gets a single. So just advancing one base at a time. So we've got first and second, two outs, fifth batter, single. Everybody advances one base. So bases are loaded, two outs. We're at five hits. Sixth batter hits the ball in front of the runner at first and the runner at first kicks it as he runs past it. All right. So according to rule 5.09 B7, a runner is out when a fair ball touches him before touching

24:41or passing a fielder. The batter gets first base. All other runners return unless forced. So no run scores here. However, then you've got to remember rule 9.05 A5, which says in that case, the batter is credited with a hit in the situation. Wow. So he got a hit, but nobody scored for the third out. So you were spot on with your guess of six. Well, I didn't arrive at that particular situation. I'll be honest.

25:16You didn't think of the hitting a runner and then getting the credit. That happened to me in one of our games. Somebody smoked a ball and it was on turf. So it was just a true bounce, smoked a ball. I had no chance of getting out of the way. I felt so bad though, because the guy was really struggling and he just ripped one and it just nailed me right in the leg. Yeah. Not fun. All right, Mark,

World Records

25:43this week I wanted to talk about world records. Do you, do you hold any world records? I'm not, I guess I should find out first. I spent, this is a true story. I spent a year calling, faxing, emailing with Guinness, the Guinness book people to try and get them to put a new record in the record books for me. And they, after a year decided that I should go for a different record instead of adding one to theirs. Okay. So, and it was, the record was saying the alphabet backwards, the fastest. Can you do it right now? I'm a little out of

26:17practice. I used to be doing, I used to be able to do it in under three seconds, but if I do it now, it's going to be more like five. You should work on doing it while solving a Rubik's cube at the same time. They, they ended up saying, why don't you try and spell the most words backwards in 10 minutes? And I was like, cause it's stupid. How about saying an alphabet backwards? It makes more sense. You know? So if a cop ever pulls you over to the alphabet backwards, then you just,

26:48I can't do it sober. So yeah, that's trouble for me. I'll give you my best go at it. Unpracticed. All right. All right. Real quick. Z-Y-X-W-V-U-T-S-R-Q-P-O-N-M-O-K-J-S-G-F-E-D-C-B-A. Do you think that is the cop going to let you go?

27:02He better not just let me go. He better let me write him. Let's take it. Okay. All right. Well, let's talk about some Guinness world records that have to do with baseball. So

Guinness World Records

27:12in the past, we have chronicled some stunts by players and teams of catching baseball's dropped from extreme heights. We've talked about 1915 Dodgers manager, Wilbert Robinson, had a female aviation pioneer, Ruth Law, no relation to Vance Law, another past guest. Yes. Drop a baseball from a plane. Robinson was going to catch it. But of course, as one does when you're taking off in an airplane to drop a baseball, you sometimes forget the

27:43baseball, but fortunately have a grapefruit, you know, on board. So you drop that without telling them and got a freshly squeezed grapefruit. Was that a luck thing? We don't want to crash, so let's take a grapefruit. Yeah. It's this big aviation thing. I don't know. Oh, okay. If you're in the pilot business, everyone's got a grapefruit somewhere. Show favorite Gabby Street once caught a baseball that was dropped from the top of the Washington Monument, which is 555 feet high. He missed the

28:13first 12 attempts at that though. But here's one that I had not heard of. Joseph Mule Sprins. S-P-R-I-N-Z. Let me just look. I never looked him up.

28:32Sprins. Joe Sprins. That is who I said, right? Joe, Joseph Mule Sprins. Yep. So Joseph was a catcher for Cleveland in 1930 and 31 and then was a member of the Cardinals in 1933. Those three years, he only appeared in 21 games. Kind of a ultimate backup catcher kind of deal. But a couple of seasons in the bigs, a lot in the minors. He finished in the PCL in 1939 though. Sprins attempted to beat the world

29:05record for catching a baseball dropped from a great height. Sprins was one of three players who caught balls dropped from 437 feet by SEALs manager Lefty O'Doul. He dropped them from a tower at the Golden Gate International Exposition here in San Francisco, which is weird because literally I just said that Gabby Street had caught one from 555 feet, which by math, in my head, which can be dodgy, 555 is greater than 437 feet. I will let you be the judge of that. Maybe realizing his error in his

29:42mathing later that year, on his 37th birthday, Sprins attempted to catch balls dropped from a blimp that was hanging approximately 800 feet overhead. Well, he was successful. Kind of. Kind of. On his fifth attempt, he caught the ball in his glove. That was the good thing. The bad thing is he put his glove right in front of his face to catch this. So there's a big difference between catching a lazy

30:14fly ball to left and catching one from 800 feet. When he caught the ball, the force slammed his glove into his face so hard that he broke his upper jaw in 12 places, fractured several teeth, and was knocked unconscious. Wow. That'll do it all right. He kept a hold of the ball. He's a catcher, though, right? He's used to getting run into. Yeah. He was hospitalized. He suffered from headaches for five years. Now,

30:45I was wondering, could that ball have reached terminal velocity from 800 feet? Where are our physics listeners at right now? I'm sure there are a lot of them out there listening to us prattle on. That's the second time I've used prattle, I think, in this episode. At what height does a baseball need to be dropped to reach terminal velocity? Well, I did the math, meaning that I ask AI. So this may or may not be correct. But terminal velocity for a baseball is around 95 miles per hour. And the

31:18blimp was at 800 feet, meaning that Sprins caught a ball traveling at roughly the same speed as a major league fastball, except for that fastball had already been traveling at 95 miles per hour for over half its trip. So that had some some speed behind it. Now, Guinness generally avoids recognizing stunts dropped due to extreme safety measures. So this record does not exist anymore, at least it did at one point. But we were all just so woke now. We're all cupcakes, right? We can't we can't have that

31:52record. That was a joke. Now, there are some updates to this record, though. Everybody's least favorite ballpark ball hawk. Zach Hample enters the chat. Oh, bum, bum, bum. Can you name any other ball hawk except for Zach Hample, by the way? No, I think he's cornered the market. Yeah, I think that that should just be his nickname, especially since it doesn't happen at Wrigley much anymore, right? Because they extended the left field seats. So you still can hit them out of the ballpark and it

32:27happens, but it doesn't happen very often anymore. Right. So Hample, for some unknown reason, decided that this was a record that he needed to at least try to break. Maybe he was tired of stealing balls from kids and needed the break. Maybe he was kicked out of stadiums. I don't know. So first he caught one dropped from helicopter from 800 feet. So that equals the record that, you know, Sprins had set. That's impressive, though. Then 1,050 feet. Right. So this is a long and boring process. He's got a

33:04video on it. He missed like 500 from each height. He did go about it a little bit smarter than Mule Sprins did, though. Sprins, I'm sorry. Mule Sprins did. He actually suited up wearing a catcher's mask, chest protector, mouthpiece, elbow pads, and used a catcher's mitt. So yeah, that makes sense. I guess that's that's I don't know how much Zach knew about Sprins, but if if he did any research, maybe it was

33:35it was it was a good move to do that. But he did eventually do this. It was on a minor league field on an off day. They were being dropped from a helicopter. It was boring. I'm not I'm not if you've run across the video. I'm just telling you it was boring. He eventually does it. It's not really worth it. But this gave me some other names that Guinness World Record does recognize some crazy stunts that they said they wouldn't do anymore. Rob Gronkowski, Gronk, like one of the football players I actually know. Well, obviously not baseball. He holds the recognized Guinness World

34:09Record for the highest altitude catch of a football, snagging one dropped from a helicopter hovering 600 feet, which I guess Guinness deems that as being safer than dropping a baseball from the same height. I don't know. Apparently, I don't know. I think it's a bit more impressive. If I'm being honest, he's catching it with his bare hands, not a glove or a right. Right. Probably wasn't. I don't maybe he wore his helmet. Maybe that would have been safe to wear the helmet. I don't know. But that got

34:39me to thinking about other baseball records in the Guinness Book of World Records. A lot of them are just MLB records for a lot of things like hits, home runs, strikeouts. But this is two strike noise. We want some of the more obscure oddball ones. We want most sunflower seeds flicked in a nine inning game kind of stuff. Worst hangover ever played with. Most greenies ingested before a game kind of thing. The thing that people really want to know. But that's right. The best I could come up with was most baseball, most baseball catches in one minute by a pair. And it is at 57.

35:19So about one catch and throw per second. Wow. Not much, but I was intrigued. Is this I needed to know, is this from 90 feet apart? Is this like from one base to another? Is it from the pitcher's mound home plate? A lot of questions that unfortunately will go unanswered. Could not find them. What I just read you is literally all the information that is on the Guinness site for this feat. I did see a video, though, of literally just two guys on YouTube that were bored and said, hey, let's try

35:51and break this record in the park this Sunday. It's like, OK, no training. They just said, hey, let's try this. Gloves shouldn't the gloves they were wearing didn't look like they could catch anything. You know how you break a glove in, you can tell it's broken in. Or if you don't play baseball, you glove basically just folds in half, right? It's not broken and it's folded. That's what their gloves look like. One guy, clearly not much of a baseball guy, judging by the way he throws a ball. They stood 30 feet apart. 30 feet. That's it. In half a day, they broke this record.

36:31Really?

36:35Unironically, they broke this record, but they had four cameras taping this entire thing. So believe it. It's there on YouTube. There were wild throws. There was trouble digging it out of a glove. I mean, neither of them were smooth. If you put Omar Vizquel, as much as we don't like Omar, and Ozzie Smith on the field today, and there are some locations Omar might not be able to do this by law, but you get the idea. Two guys that are good fielders. Or maybe we sub out Omar and Ozzie and we

37:06put like Ellie De La Cruz and Sean Dunstan there. Big arms, athletes, baseball players. Having watched these guys breaking this mark, I think Ellie and Sean could maybe do 80 to 90 in one minute from 30 feet apart. Just bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam. I don't know. It might be worth like for charity. Maybe that's an off-season thing. We can put it together. There you go. I wonder what the world record would be for using a pitchback net in, you know, in one minute or however many minutes this is.

37:40Like what, what would the record for that be? I have one of those in my backyard, by the way, a pitchback machine, pitchback net still. Yeah. I love that thing. All right. So other world records

Pitchback Net World Record

37:52that I wanted to talk about that are just not officially recognized and it's, it's getting frustrating. Have you seen the commercials for Blue Emu? Yes. So if you don't know what Blue Emu is, according to their website, it is a topical pain relief cream spray and patches that are marketed for soothing muscle aches, joint pain, and arthritis. We are not sponsored by Blue Emu yet, at least. Hit us up. Nudge, nudge, wink, wink. Yeah. I mean, I use salon paws, but I'm,

38:23I'm willing to switch here, Blue Emu. Let me know. I jump all over the Blue Emu. Let me tell you, I'm on it. So Johnny Bench is one of their spokespersons. He's done several commercials for them. And in one of them, he holds seven baseballs in one of his hands. He's famous for this. He's got big hands and he can spread out and hold seven baseballs in one hand. Mark, I don't think you can hold seven baseballs in both of your hands. There's no way. No. No, I have the world's tiniest

38:55hands. I wasn't going to say that. I don't mind. It's a fact. I wear a size five shoe. We'll say you, you shop in the women's or the girls' child's shoe department. No, no, no, no. I shop in young men's. Okay.

39:15That's why you've got Spider-Man on your shoes all the time in Minecraft. Those are the coolest shoes ever. And Fowler Rangers. Don't forget those. And Velcro. But I shop for gloves in the young ladies section. Yes. Like isotoners or baseball gloves? No. Yeah. Like isotoners. Yeah. Okay. So this is, you know, Johnny Bench is famous for this. He does this, but this is not the record, at least. Not anymore for most baseballs held in one hand. Former Tigers minor league catcher Bobby

39:47Link holds the Guinness record. Holds the Guinness record. Not sponsored by Guinness, interestingly enough, but very interested if you're listening. That record is eight baseballs in one hand. Wow. How does that even work? I'm not sure where you put those. Yeah. Cause you're, you can't stack them on top of each other. They all have to be touching part of your hand. I would have thought maybe like Antonio Alfonseca might've been able to do something like this. The octopus. Yeah. Remember? Cause he was called the octopus. Cause he had an

40:20extra finger on both of his hands and toes. I think not a finger on his toe, but I think he had extra toes as well. Dude, that would have been amazing if he did. Yeah. Why is he called the octopus? He had no point. Does he have eight of anything? Oh, that's true. He's got 12 fingers and 12 toes. Yeah. That's not octo. It's a baseball nickname. I mean, what do you, what do you expect? Yes. What do you call something that's 12? If octo is eight, what is 12? Nobody, nobody in a baseball clubhouse is going to know thusly why he was called the octopus.

40:53Six on one, half dozen on the other. That's it.

40:59All right. Regardless, I looked it up this week and the record still says it is actually seven, not eight. And there is no mention of Johnny Bench or Bobby Link. So that's hardly fair. Guinness book of world records. One, again, we need to be sponsored. Two, it is claims to be held by Ethan A. Martinez, Justin Precolo, Jolo. There's a lot of, there's a lot of consonants. Was that Greek? What's going on? It could be. And James Furr.

41:32F-U-R-R. F-U-R-R. Easier to say than Pukolokalokaloko. Yeah. Oh, okay. Well, this is the thing. Most baseballs held in a hand palm down must be held for a minimum of five seconds. So like in the blue emu commercial, Johnny Bench has just got him up pointing at the camera. I don't know if Johnny Bench could, with that, then flip it over and hold them for five seconds. i don't know one of i don't know one of these guys is from florida one's from ohio the other

42:06is from walnut california which i learned earlier this week is where lance parishes from it's in southern california not walnut creek but walnut california so gotcha got it let me make sure it's lance and not larry isn't that where the little house on the prairie people lived that's walnut grove oh i knew that how did i know that i don't know how i there is a reboot coming out and i've paid no attention to it i did watch that show when i was young and read the books by laura ingles

42:42wilder but yeah walnut grove right i think you're right yeah man i can't house on the prairie uh we may want to start a podcast on that oh well we we already have of course mark have you forgotten that we've already recorded the first episode of our little house on the prairie podcast called little league on the prairie i had forgotten yes gosh that was just before we did this show yeah i know it was back to back kind of weird that you didn't remember that but yeah it's okay yes what was what was i thinking so i i found this other guy that put 15 baseballs in his hand but it's holding

43:21it up and he's just he made a he made a pyramid in his hand really it's not really i mean if that's the thing then then johnny bench or or these other guys could probably put eight million in there so just never mind all right those are the only baseball records of note that i could find in the guinness book of world records and again guinness we are not sponsored but always happy to be so if you want to we're here all right i can see mitch is he looks a little bored in the uh in the

43:57studio no that's just the look on his face it's normal oh okay well he's quaffing his hair so that must mean that's his new sign that it is time for us to head into the final segment of the show it

Wax Pack Heroes Introduction

44:09how everybody and welcome to today's edition of wax pack heroes you know wax pack heroes heroes backwards is so a cat sow hey the rules were simple jeff and mark are here from two strike

44:50noise long time friends of mine jeff and mark they're gonna play an old-fashioned game of war but instead of using playing cards they're gonna be using budweiser's hey what okay no they're gonna be using baseball cards that makes much more sense they'll be using war of the year of the cards and whoever has the highest war that round wins cobs win cobs win cobs win just like that but there are

45:25extra factors arnie's telling me that can add or subtract from their war totals 1980s baseball aesthetics there you go extra points hall of famer bud lover extra points and if they have a pop culture reference like they were in a budweiser commercial extra points but whoa nelly if they appeared in seinfeld

45:56the simpsons the simpsons or sabrina the tage witch and they get a whole extra point or if nolan ryan or ricky henderson show up the round is over and we drink budweiser's hey but they can also lose points if they show up in the mitchell report or are on the do not talk about list you know who i think should be on that list arnie mark bread's a gredzilla mark gredzolonic and that guy's name is is too difficult

46:35they can also get more points if they led the league in any good categories that season if they want any warrants and if they have a costacos brother poster oh boy i could go for some tacos i love tacos but if they top the leaderboard in something bad like airs or spilling budweiser's they're gonna get a minus point so no hey let's wrap this up and go get some tacos and sub budweiser

47:13now let me hear you a one a two a three wax pack heroes all right mark we are gonna revert back to since we were so generously sent so many of those cards from a 1972 tops man older than i am we're gonna go back to those and go through some of those looking up at the scoreboard though mark right now i have taken the lead after a very entertaining game last week i am up 13 to 11 we are racing to 20

47:52i am currently in the lead you have got the cards here so that means i'm gonna get to decide whether i get to go first or second well here's how i'm gonna do it first of all thank you john k we're gonna do this again john k you are a legend thank you all right and i've got a stack of five in my right and a stack of five in my left which one do you want i'm gonna go left and john k is that a nickname is he a pitcher like a big strikeout guy yes that's what it is it's just for the amount of strikeouts he's thrown all right okay john all right so you want to go first or second i want to go second

48:24i like being the home team okay so that means we're gonna start me off here we go here we go and it's a manager card and you've heard of this guy 1972 baltimore manager earl weaver oh you get the hall of fame bonus don't you that's right all right so you uh you're gonna get the hall of fame bonus right off the bat now earl never played in the big leagues he made it as high as double oh no triple a looks like for baltimore in 1958 played for the louisville colonels hey there we go they

49:00were still the colonels back then no pete browning on that team i think in 1958 though right it was almost the 100 year anniversary of pete browning on the colonels in 1958 but he had 13 ab's there and four hits for 308 average but then that was it he never made it above double a after that but as a manager overall in 17 seasons in the majors he went 2538 wins to 1478 losses or no i'm sorry he had 1479 wins to 1058 losses for a 583 winning percentage nothing wrong with that yeah he did win

49:40the world series with the orioles in 1970 and he won two other american league pennants in 69 71 and 79 also i did he hold the record before bobby cox broke it for being the most ejected yeah i would think so i would think so too also some reason that sounds right famously had the uh the secret pocket in his jersey where he could hide his he could stash his pack of cigarettes that's right

50:11which is always a fun thing to to talk about so is there anything on this card that's going to help you out because otherwise you get the hall of fame bonus but that's about it no it's a very young looking earl comparatively speaking to what we're used to now here's a question for you there's someone behind him that's walking that has stirrups on does that count no okay so there's nothing yeah if it was if it was another player that was a hall of famer yes it counts but uh no okay well nothing on the card's gonna help me all right so you're uh you're staring at a one for earl weaver what have

50:45i got you got oh i do want to mention i want to mention this earl weaver baseball pop culture oh good point oh plus he did commercials oh we i forgot he did he did a commercial a car commercial for like oldsmobile or something with i don't remember who it was it was one of the famous umpires of the day but he did a commercial with that but beyond that earl weaver baseball might be the first baseball game i ever played on a computer unlike our tandy computer from radio shack our very first one

51:20i remember those i just i'm looking at the cover and i remember this game very well i enjoyed it so you got a you got a 1.5 very nice okay i'll take it for a manager card are you kidding me yeah all right and you my friend have pulled a cardinals first baseman outfielder art shamsky i know art shamsky i at least know the name s-h-a-m-s-k-y yeah he played for the mets at some point he did overall eight years in the big

51:56league cincinnati the metropolitans and then the cubs and he was on the a's in 1972 so technically he's got two world series rings he was on the uh the mets in 1969 and then 72 he only appeared in eight games for the a's but that will get you a ring absolutely let's see in 1972 that was his final year in the big leagues not good news for me though he split it between the cubs and the a's

52:27overall he appeared in 23 games he hit 087 with a 222 on base which is actually pretty good for somebody hitting 087 he slugged 087 for a minus 10 ops plus no home runs one rib and a minus 0.2 war a little rough no i think you're gonna get pop culture points because he used to be able to wash and dry the cars and so that's the sham wow i'm so sorry yeah no my apologies

53:00art was nicknamed sham and smasher okay he was the manager of the modine miracle of the israeli baseball league in 2007 huh well the miracle finished the inaugural 2007 season with a 22 and 19 record in third place but then they upset the number two tel aviv lightning in the semi-finals before losing to the bet shemesh blue socks in the championship series all right and i had a lot

53:32of money on that game let me tell you that was the one and only season that took place he owned a new york restaurant called legends and has written two books about looks looks like he's written books about the jets and the knicks that's interesting okay and in an episode of everybody loves raymond ray and robert's childhood bulldog was named after shamsky so there you go comedian john stewart also named one of his pit bulls shamsky so it's it's pop culture but not enough to uh

54:07not enough it's dancing right around it man yeah so you're up one to nothing all right all right one oh and i'm pulling a 1972 rookie stars giants so there's three guys i gotta pick one okay chris arnold shortstop jim barr pitcher okay dave raider catcher i've heard of two of them i think i'm gonna go with jim barr i think okay that was him and raider i think i've heard yeah raider's the catcher yeah is it b-a-r-r yes yeah let's see jim barr james leland barr played for 12 years in the

54:43big leagues 10 with the giants and two with the california angels 1972 that was his first full year in the majors let's see he appeared in 44 games he had an 8 and 12 record with a 2.87 era he had eight complete games two shutouts and two saves pitched in 179 innings gave up 166 hits 57 earned runs struck out 86 for a 122 era plus and a 2.9 war nice very nice not much of a hitter well

55:20you know in 1974 he hit 254 with a home run and three ribs and three doubles wow and had a 303 on base percentage that's pretty good he was drafted one two three four five six times before finally signing with the giants in 1970 no relation to roseanne fortunately looks like he's got some daughters that have played soccer at high levels including the w usa i worked a couple of w usa games in atlanta nothing else uh nothing else that was the pitching coach

55:55at sacramento state for 16 years which is not too far away from me is there anything on that card that's going to help you no absolutely nothing just headshots and close-ups of some men who are about as attractive as i am oh okay good yeah real lookers all right yeah sorry so you have you have a cubs first baseman who was probably better known for playing for the yankees joe pepitone oh well seinfeld reference that's right i'm gonna get that right off the bat i'll take it absolutely

56:28but that's he didn't appear in seinfeld so i can't i can't take the the whole point i'll just take the half a point there's yeah you got to get something for that pepitone overall eight years in the big league was joe pepitone the one that was crowding the dish at fantasy camp yes when kramer was pitching i think it was yeah uh yankees for eight cubs for four houston and atlanta for a year apiece 1972 with the cubs wow i'm not getting good luck here let's see he appeared in 66 games hit 262 309 on

57:02base 397 slug for a 92 ops plus eight home runs 21 ribs a minus 0.1 war whoops for pep he was traded he was traded from the yankees to the astros for kurt belfry did they did that in the belfry oh very nice who was nicknamed clank so i'm assuming his defense was not wonderful wow that's harsh that is and then the cubs eventually traded him to atlanta for andre thornton andre thornton was on those

57:35atlanta teams that were awful like yeah the lucky guy yeah joe pepitone was shot by a classmate at when he was 17 at school in the same week his father died from a stroke at age 39 oh my gosh wow what an awful week that's pretty rough yeah i'm curious about this being shot at school but there's not much information about that well there's nothing on the uh card except for a really impressive

58:06pair of mutton chops oh that does count yeah we do have we count that as being on the face it's called the brady anderson rule the brady anderson rule applies yeah let's see it was mentioned in jim bouton's ball four pepitone went nowhere without a bag containing hair products for his rapidly balding head he eventually took to wearing toupees wow another seinfeld reference he posed nude for foxy lady

58:36magazine featuring full frontal nudity wow okay also played in the american professional slow pitch league professional men's softball league he was a minor league hitting coach and eventually a big league hitting coach for the yankees in 82 he was replaced by lou piniella that summer though after pepitone was sent to prison for drug offenses wow this i mean it sounds like joe pepitone probably just needs an episode

59:08he could be on the dental list with some of these other things that he has done sounds like he did a lot unfortunately passed away from a heart attack in 2023 just missed him so yeah not close to 2.9 you're up two to nothing early all right okay moving on and i have drawn the yankees right-handed pitcher jim harden h-a-r-d-i-n not related to rich who spells it differently harden jim harden all right overall six

59:42years in the big leagues five with baltimore and then parts of seasons with atlanta and the yankees 1972 was his final year in the big leagues he spent it in hotlanta if you live in atlanta you hate it when people say that it's it's like calling san francisco frisco it's just you locals don't do it overall went five and two with a 4.41 era for the 72 braves pitched 79 and two-thirds innings he did have two saves gave up 93 hits 39 earned runs struck out 25 for an era plus of 86 and a war

1:00:19of minus 0.3 is there anything on that card that's going to help you out he's got some really nice sideburns i was going to say i would think sideburns would be pretty popular at this point for 72 no real transactions to mention let's see harden enjoyed flying airplanes but unfortunately passed away in 1991 when the aircraft that he was piloting crashed in key west florida the propeller of his

1:00:50aircraft failed from fatigue i feel you i understand stalled the plane crashed he was unable to return to the airport for an emergency landing it is widely reported that during the plane's descent harden steered the plane away from a baseball field filled with young children crashed into a parking lot at tgi fridays knowing that that would be empty survived by his wife and three kids so not a happy ending but there there is jim harden all right so you are at a minus 0.2 for that who is my last gasp here

1:01:25okay you have orioles pitcher grant jackson do i get points for having two presidents in his name i think so i'm related to ulysses s grant vaguely does that get me any points absolutely not no his nickname was buck buck jackson wow 18 years in the big leagues six for pittsburgh six for baltimore six for philadelphia and then parts of seasons for the yankees the royals and montreal 1972 he was 29

1:01:57at this point he is a pitcher he went one and one with a 2.63 era he had eight saves working out of the bullpen pitched 41 innings gave up 33 hits 12 earned runs 34 strikeouts for a 118 era plus and a war of 0.3 he did win a world series with pittsburgh he was family in 1979 there you go which coincidentally was against baltimore anything on that card gonna help me out just a close-up shot of looks like him

1:02:28pondering pondering all right traded by the baltimore orioles with doyle alexander and elrod hendricks and ken holtzman to the yankees for rick dempsey tippy martinez rudy may who we've mentioned earlier in the podcast and scott mcgregor hmm so he is technically related to john smoltz how about that yeah that's a trade relatives yeah and another trade relative this should get me but july i'm sorry january 14th 1982 traded by the montreal expos to the kansas city royals for

1:03:06ken phelps ken phelps ken phelps he was not traded for jay buehner at any point no no anything else we need to talk about unfortunately passed away in 2021 from complications from covet did play in the senior professional baseball association part of the gold coast suns team nice but regardless that's a win for me i'm on the board it's two to one yeah i i'm a little nervous here i've got i don't recognize this philadelphia phillies pitcher left-hander ken reynolds ken reynolds all right

1:03:43let's see ken reynolds was in the league for six years three with the phillies and then the padres st louis and milwaukee for separate seasons 1972 1972 was his best year as a well i i'm gonna say his best year as a professional i say that then saying that his record was two and 15 that year wow the 1972 phillies under frank lucchese and paul owens went 59 and 97 but he he took he took about 15 of the team's losses this year

1:04:21he went two and 15 his era was only 4.26 and he was a reliever oh wow we relieved part-time he he started 23 games i was gonna be like how do you vulture that many losses 154 and a third innings pitched 149 hits he struck out 87 for an 85 era plus but he still managed to have a war of positive 0.5 wow how'd he pull that off i mean he didn't win a gold glove that year i don't know

1:04:54unbelievable defense yes it had to be he was traded at one point for cesar tovar which is always a fun name and yeah that's about it from his reference page in terms of exciting things not much else going on in his wikipedia page so it is a positive 0.5 is there anything on that card to help you out absolutely nothing no all right so you've got a 0.5 who who's on my squad here

1:05:28let's see who we got oh uh you got actually he's with the yankees here outfielder philippe elu oh not a hall of famer but you know yeah he's probably i guarantee you he's in a hall of fame somewhere in the in the dr i bet of course i mean mark i think like you i know him more as a manager but he was obviously a great player played at the same time as his three brothers yes also the cousin of jose sosa father of moses and i always say moses i make it french i make everything french

1:06:06though i just like to speak french moses alu and luis rojo and is the uncle of mel rojas luis rojas i think i said rojo but it's luis rojas as a player let's see in 1972 you said he played in the big leagues for 17 years atlanta and san francisco for six apiece the yankees for three the a's for two and then montreal and milwaukee for a season apiece 1972 with the yankees played in 120 games he hit 278 326 on base 395 slug for a 117 ops plus he had six home runs

1:06:4537 ribs and a 1.6 war anything on the card gonna help me out you know it's not a bad looking card but there's nothing there that's gonna help you know oh traded by the giants for with a player to be named later along with ed bailey who i remember through collecting those 62 giants was a catcher for the giants to milwaukee for dell crandall oh okay those are the only names i really recognize as being super good manager of the year he won that award overall he managed in the big

1:07:23leagues for both the expos and the giants for 14 years and had a combined record of 1033 wins 1021 losses he did not ever win a division or pennant as a manager unfortunately he was a manager of those expos though when they moved i don't think he was i don't think he managed though in washington did no he didn't 2001 was his last year with the with the expos i ask you oh no yeah there's nothing on

1:07:58the nothing on the card that's gonna help me out wow in 2002 agreed to serve as bench coach for the tigers rookie manager luis pujols okay remember that managed the dr at the 2009 world baseball classic he's still around he was on there is a documentary on netflix about the expos that he is a part of and i was just you know i just remember him being kind of spry you could tell he was old but he was always

1:08:29kind of spry and he's you know he's really aged it happens to us unfortunately he is yeah he's pretty pretty old at this point yeah i think that's it that's gonna be enough for the win though and to tie it to a piece all right moving on to what let's see what happens here what if we tie it on this one then we got to go to a tiebreaker yeah yeah well let's see i don't know i think you got me a little i'm looking at the cards my lucky card is pitcher right hander casey cox of texas all right casey

1:09:05cox we've had before apparently or i've at least checked on him at some point overall eight years in the big league seven for texas two for the yankees 1972 he split time between texas and the yankees he went overall three and six that year with a 4.44 era mainly out of the bullpen he got a couple of spot starts four saves 77 innings pitched 86 hits 31 strikeouts for an era plus of 68

1:09:35and a war of minus 1.6 ouch yikes anything on that card gonna help you out no he's staring up into space like how could how could i ever get a war that low nothing really here to talk about on his reference page worked three innings of mop-up relief in a red socks victory in 1973 on opening day that marked the first game in which a designated hitter was used in the american league and there's your

1:10:09baseball history there we go passed away in 2023 at the age of 82 in clearwater florida but that is a minus 1.6 in the i was gonna it's not the penultimate is the ultimate yeah i i'm just looking at your player here and i'm thinking i'm in trouble all right he is a mets outfielder a little later in his career but i think he was still going very strong tommy ag that's exactly who i thought of when you said when you said that that is exactly who came to mind all right tommy ag let's see overall 12 years in the

1:10:52big leagues the mets for five white socks and cleveland for three houston and st louis for one apiece a member of that 69 the second member of that 69 mets world series team that we've come across here today also was the rookie of the year for the mets in 1966 won two cold gloves during his career but 1972 was his age 29 season let's see hit 227 or 227 for my jack a fans hey that's a that's

1:11:23a reach i i'm sure some people will get that but that one's a bit of a reach 317 on base 374 slug for a 99 ops plus 13 home runs 47 ribs eight stolen bases nine caught stealing for a war of 0.1 which normally i might worry about but with your minus 1.6 i'm feeling like we might be popping some champagne in the in the clubhouse let's see he was traded several times the as a three-way deal

1:11:59where the a's the kansas city a's sent rocky calavito to cleveland which there you go tommy john was also involved in that he went from cleveland to the white socks and then the white socks traded him and al weiss to the mets for tommy davis and billy win those are really the the big names here that he had been traded for anything on the card gonna help me out no i don't know he's wearing

1:12:32some big puffy blue jacket thing it's really odd under the jersey or over it no you don't see the jersey the thing's completely covering everything yeah because if it was under the jersey that's that's bonus points like you need any bonus points buddy i'm i'm trying to pile it on here i'm trying to get some momentum oh wow ag was hit in the head by bob gibson on the very first pitch thrown to a mets batter ever in spring training of 1968 jeez yikes he went 0 for 10 in a 24 inning game against

1:13:05houston that's gotta hurt the average no matter what part of the season it's in oh we have our we have our second everybody loves raymond reference which will nice also get me some additional points appeared as himself in a 99 episode of everyone loves raymond along with several other members of the 69 mets met his wife maxine at a nightclub and restaurant that he ran unfortunately heart attack 2001 at the age of 58 he's in the mets hall of fame the new york state baseball hall of fame as

1:13:40well and a middle school was built on the property of ag's former nightclub in queens so there you go good news for me though is all of that equals a come from behind victory and will now put me up 14 to 11 oh see we gotta we gotta put something together maybe make a deadline trade yeah oh here's something i do want to mention this he won he won two gold gloves one in the national league one in the american league became the first african-american to win a gold glove in both leagues

1:14:12oh there you go so there's baseball history yeah like we said all right there we go that'll do it for this version of wax packs heroes i like the way that this is headed on a little bit of a streak here six away from popping that champagne for real but that'll do it for this wax pack heroes is also

Wax Pack Heroes Conclusion

1:14:30gonna do it for this episode thank you very much for hanging out with us if you want more of us you can find us in the show notes on social medias you can always search for two strike noise that's t-w-o strike noise in the show notes we've got links to our social media as well as our youtube where i stream three times a week nine o'clock on monday wednesday friday west coast time we do a bunch of this stuff where we talk about walnut california because we're doing the grid and 162 and 0 and all those kind of

1:15:02things starting nine all those baseball dailies that you probably play you can come and watch an idiot struggle with them because he has no memory that would be me so we also have an email address mark oh right i forgot about that i'd better check that once in a while it's actually you can you can write to us we will get back to you it's a promise it's uh what is it again oh yeah two strike noise t-w-o strike noise at gmail.com if you forgot it mark you could just look in the show notes it's right there

1:15:33i could look in the show notes all right that'll do it for this week let me do it all right that'll do it for this episode thank you very much for hanging out with us hope everybody's doing well having a good summer hope your team's winning and we will see you again on the next episode of two strike noise thank you god bless you have a great day you

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